Thursday 18 July 2013

Re: I wish to know decision making process followed by AAP.

I completely agree with Vineet Arora. 


I have similar experience in last 2 years of trying to contact iac aap  anna and team's response to democratic demands. 
-shiva thippaiah



-------- Original message --------
From: Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com>
Date:
To: Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org>
Cc: Mohit Prem Pundir <mohitprempundir@gmail.com>,Anil Kori <anilkoriiitd@gmail.com>,Bipul Dey <bipul.dey@gmail.com>,righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com,atuldubey89@gmail.com
Subject: Re: I wish to know decision making process followed by AAP.


Dear Decision Makers at AAP,

I would like to share my strong discontent with AAP. For past 6 months or more I am constantly following AAP on web pages, blogs, AAP people, their central contactable number etc. I have forwarded a number of suggestion for AAP to adopt democratic principles, measures most of those are shared in trailing emails. My belief in AAP got terribly shaken when I didn't founding any reply to any of the suggestions till yet other than `these are forwarded to the team`. I see all the decision making power is vested in a very very few selected hands where volunteers the main ground level workers have the only job to spread good word about AAP and nothing else non of their suggestions are taken seriously.
Except the name it doesn't seems anything else relates to Aam Aadmi or a common man in your authoritarian centralized set up.

Please let me know if my anguish, discontent isn't correct.

As I have already lost faith in decision makers of AAP, I wont be pushing them any further to take up democratic procedures.

In case you people feel otherwise and have any update on any of my suggestions feel free to call back, email, contact in any possible way. I assure you I would be most willing to hear from you but wont approach your party for updates.

Hoping one day you people realize the value of democratic principles.
Vineet Arora.




On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.
Kindly update.

Warm Regards


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.
Kindly update.

Warm Regards
Vineet Arora.


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam

I hope everything is going good with you people. 
I called Bipul Ji to discuss on this but came to know of a tragedy in her family that some of his relatives got a heart stroke recently and had to be hospitalized.

I feel really bad and am very sorry to disturb Bipul Ji in such an hour of grief.
I hope the concerned person gets well very soon.

1) Just checking if the task of 'Gathering all the documented suggestions that have come up to AAP from general public ' can taken over by someone else or even I can come to office with some of my collegues to gather the information. Just don't wish to bother Bipul Ji for anything now. In case it can only be done by Bipul Ji I would request him to  do it whenever appropriate taking his family commitments on priority.

Just request you to update me in any of the cases.


2) There are other suggestions that I have sent to AAP which are there in preceeding emails. Thanks for forwarding those to the concerned people I would like to know the status of the same, 
a) Have those been discarded outrightly 
b) Fully accepted
c) Partially accepted, in that case what all is accepted
d) Still pending discussion, in that case when could I expect any update.
e) Any other relevant information that could be shared.


3) Apart from the above I would like to know if there is anything that I could do to help Bipul Ji during such an hour of difficulty. Kindly do let me know I would be more than willing to help one of our brother in need, based on my capacity and abality.


Warm Regards
Vineet Arora.



On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks you I will get in touch with him.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:

Hi Vineet Ji,

Please call Mr. Bipul on 09350103687 between 10 to 6 PM to discuss the issue.

Warm Regards
Vaibhav
Team AAP

On May 31, 2013 11:09 AM, "Vineet Arora" <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to thank you for your timely response. Kindly forward me Bipul Jis contact number so that we could coordinate and find timings that would suite booth of us.


Warm Regards
Vineet.

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:
> Dear Vineet,
>
> Please come to office & discuss all this to Mr. Bipul Dey.
>
> Warm Regards
> Vaibhav
> Team AAP
>
> Connect with us on Social Network:
> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sir/Madam
>>
>> Thanks for forwarding my suggestions/emails to concerned people/department.
>> I would like to have/know all the documented suggestions that have come up
>> to AAP from general public. If they are via post/email/inland or any other
>> means.
>>
>> If emails please forward, If inland letters etc I can come to your office
>> and collect the print-out/ photostat paying appropriate cost. Any other
>> suggestion from your side where you could provide me that info are most
>> welcome.
>>
>> I would like to collate all these documents/proofs for future reference as a
>> process of building/strengthening a democracy, probably would get these
>> published in form of a book.
>>
>> I hope you would find this quite valid in implementing complete
>> transparency. Would request you to upload all these on your website for
>> general public awareness.
>>
>> Thanks in anticipation of favorable response.
>> Vineet Arora.
>>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Arora,
>>>
>>> Thanks for writing in, we will forward your mail to our team which is
>>> still working to finalize our draft for mentioned issues, they will
>>> consider these suggestions actively.
>>>
>>> Warm Regards
>>> Vaibhav
>>> Team AAP
>>>
>>> Connect with us on Social Network:
>>> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
>>> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
>>> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
>>> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Dear Sir/Madam
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for forwarding my suggestions to concerned people.
>>> > During one of the conversation with one of the AAP volunteer there came
>>> > a
>>> > discussion point that since cost of election is quite high so JanLokpal
>>> > being selected by people might not be appropriate as that would put
>>> > additional burden on people, but since Arvind Ji himself have said a
>>> > number
>>> > of times that power or satta would be given directly to people so I
>>> > assume
>>> > applying the same analogy to Janlokpal selection that it would be
>>> > possible
>>> > for people to directly elect their representative even Janlokpal.
>>> > One of the ways of realising above goal I was found, very directly
>>> > available
>>> > on internet:
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_Complaint_Procedure
>>> >
>>> > I am pretty sure there are much more efficient ways of realising above
>>> > goal
>>> > some of them would be even economical than this one.
>>> >
>>> > Benefitts I found is the cost of election/suggestion is directly taken
>>> > by
>>> > individual and not by government(which is later on put on people in form
>>> > of
>>> > excessive taxes) and so transparency in cost. The cost is very very
>>> > negligible and beniffits are abdundant and could lead in peoples' direct
>>> > participation in law making.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2) One other reform in Judiary I found that is already implemented in
>>> > many
>>> > advanced countries inluding US and UK is use of Jury system instead of
>>> > Judge
>>> > system for trial cases. How Jury system works, how to create Jury etc
>>> > are
>>> > given in lenghts on internet for sample following links could be used:
>>> > a) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/





Fwd: Re: I wish to know decision making process followed by AAP.

Dear sowmya 
Please go  via forwarded mail. It shows discontent with aap decision makers's responses after trying for 6 months. 

I have similar experience in last 2 years of trying to contact iac aap  anna and team's response to democratic demands. 

Please Dont assume our demands are silly or containing any deviating hidden agenda. 
 
Our demands are 

same ( even if asked by many different activists like siva, me, Vineet Arora , kmoksha and hundred of other activists as you can find in http://righttorecallmails.blogspot.com) ,

well documented, 
specific , 
transfer power to citizens  and 
simple to underadtand.


That's why my intention is for you as a individual indias well wisher,  to go via our simple 3 line law and to understand, ask openly if any doubts and to give your very respected 1/2 hour per week for distributing pamplets., while you continue your other work like AAP Activity.  

As usual the mail is    

publicly dispalyed in http://righttorecallmails.blogspot.com . l request you to  cc your response to righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com

to display your response publicly. 

Shiva  




-------- Original message --------
From: Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com>
Date:
To: Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org>
Cc: Mohit Prem Pundir <mohitprempundir@gmail.com>,Anil Kori <anilkoriiitd@gmail.com>,Bipul Dey <bipul.dey@gmail.com>,righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com,atuldubey89@gmail.com
Subject: Re: I wish to know decision making process followed by AAP.


Dear Decision Makers at AAP,

I would like to share my strong discontent with AAP. For past 6 months or more I am constantly following AAP on web pages, blogs, AAP people, their central contactable number etc. I have forwarded a number of suggestion for AAP to adopt democratic principles, measures most of those are shared in trailing emails. My belief in AAP got terribly shaken when I didn't founding any reply to any of the suggestions till yet other than `these are forwarded to the team`. I see all the decision making power is vested in a very very few selected hands where volunteers the main ground level workers have the only job to spread good word about AAP and nothing else non of their suggestions are taken seriously.
Except the name it doesn't seems anything else relates to Aam Aadmi or a common man in your authoritarian centralized set up.

Please let me know if my anguish, discontent isn't correct.

As I have already lost faith in decision makers of AAP, I wont be pushing them any further to take up democratic procedures.

In case you people feel otherwise and have any update on any of my suggestions feel free to call back, email, contact in any possible way. I assure you I would be most  welcome.  to hear from you but wont approach your party for updates.

Hoping one day you people realize the value of democratic principles.
Vineet Arora.




On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.
Kindly update.

Warm Regards


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.
Kindly update.

Warm Regards
Vineet Arora.


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam

I hope everything is going good with you people. 
I called Bipul Ji to discuss on this but came to know of a tragedy in her family that some of his relatives got a heart stroke recently and had to be hospitalized.

I feel really bad and am very sorry to disturb Bipul Ji in such an hour of grief.
I hope the concerned person gets well very soon.

1) Just checking if the task of 'Gathering all the documented suggestions that have come up to AAP from general public ' can taken over by someone else or even I can come to office with some of my collegues to gather the information. Just don't wish to bother Bipul Ji for anything now. In case it can only be done by Bipul Ji I would request him to  do it whenever appropriate taking his family commitments on priority.

Just request you to update me in any of the cases.


2) There are other suggestions that I have sent to AAP which are there in preceeding emails. Thanks for forwarding those to the concerned people I would like to know the status of the same, 
a) Have those been discarded outrightly 
b) Fully accepted
c) Partially accepted, in that case what all is accepted
d) Still pending discussion, in that case when could I expect any update.
e) Any other relevant information that could be shared.


3) Apart from the above I would like to know if there is anything that I could do to help Bipul Ji during such an hour of difficulty. Kindly do let me know I would be more than willing to help one of our brother in need, based on my capacity and abality.


Warm Regards
Vineet Arora.



On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks you I will get in touch with him.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:

Hi Vineet Ji,

Please call Mr. Bipul on 09350103687 between 10 to 6 PM to discuss the issue.

Warm Regards
Vaibhav
Team AAP

On May 31, 2013 11:09 AM, "Vineet Arora" <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to thank you for your timely response. Kindly forward me Bipul Jis contact number so that we could coordinate and find timings that would suite booth of us.


Warm Regards
Vineet.

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:
> Dear Vineet,
>
> Please come to office & discuss all this to Mr. Bipul Dey.
>
> Warm Regards
> Vaibhav
> Team AAP
>
> Connect with us on Social Network:
> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sir/Madam
>>
>> Thanks for forwarding my suggestions/emails to concerned people/department.
>> I would like to have/know all the documented suggestions that have come up
>> to AAP from general public. If they are via post/email/inland or any other
>> means.
>>
>> If emails please forward, If inland letters etc I can come to your office
>> and collect the print-out/ photostat paying appropriate cost. Any other
>> suggestion from your side where you could provide me that info are most
>> welcome.
>>
>> I would like to collate all these documents/proofs for future reference as a
>> process of building/strengthening a democracy, probably would get these
>> published in form of a book.
>>
>> I hope you would find this quite valid in implementing complete
>> transparency. Would request you to upload all these on your website for
>> general public awareness.
>>
>> Thanks in anticipation of favorable response.
>> Vineet Arora.
>>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Arora,
>>>
>>> Thanks for writing in, we will forward your mail to our team which is
>>> still working to finalize our draft for mentioned issues, they will
>>> consider these suggestions actively.
>>>
>>> Warm Regards
>>> Vaibhav
>>> Team AAP
>>>
>>> Connect with us on Social Network:
>>> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
>>> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
>>> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
>>> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Dear Sir/Madam
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for forwarding my suggestions to concerned people.
>>> > During one of the conversation with one of the AAP volunteer there came
>>> > a
>>> > discussion point that since cost of election is quite high so JanLokpal
>>> > being selected by people might not be appropriate as that would put
>>> > additional burden on people, but since Arvind Ji himself have said a
>>> > number
>>> > of times that power or satta would be given directly to people so I
>>> > assume
>>> > applying the same analogy to Janlokpal selection that it would be
>>> > possible
>>> > for people to directly elect their representative even Janlokpal.
>>> > One of the ways of realising above goal I was found, very directly
>>> > available
>>> > on internet:
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_Complaint_Procedure
>>> >
>>> > I am pretty sure there are much more efficient ways of realising above
>>> > goal
>>> > some of them would be even economical than this one.
>>> >
>>> > Benefitts I found is the cost of election/suggestion is directly taken
>>> > by
>>> > individual and not by government(which is later on put on people in form
>>> > of
>>> > excessive taxes) and so transparency in cost. The cost is very very
>>> > negligible and beniffits are abdundant and could lead in peoples' direct
>>> > participation in law making.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2) One other reform in Judiary I found that is already implemented in
>>> > many
>>> > advanced countries inluding US and UK is use of Jury system instead of
>>> > Judge
>>> > system for trial cases. How Jury system works, how to create Jury etc
>>> > are
>>> > given in lenghts on internet for sample following links could be used:
>>> > a) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/





Re: I wish to know decision making process followed by AAP.

Dear Decision Makers at AAP,

I would like to share my strong discontent with AAP. For past 6 months or more I am constantly following AAP on web pages, blogs, AAP people, their central contactable number etc. I have forwarded a number of suggestion for AAP to adopt democratic principles, measures most of those are shared in trailing emails. My belief in AAP got terribly shaken when I didn't founding any reply to any of the suggestions till yet other than `these are forwarded to the team`. I see all the decision making power is vested in a very very few selected hands where volunteers the main ground level workers have the only job to spread good word about AAP and nothing else non of their suggestions are taken seriously.
Except the name it doesn't seems anything else relates to Aam Aadmi or a common man in your authoritarian centralized set up.

Please let me know if my anguish, discontent isn't correct.

As I have already lost faith in decision makers of AAP, I wont be pushing them any further to take up democratic procedures.

In case you people feel otherwise and have any update on any of my suggestions feel free to call back, email, contact in any possible way. I assure you I would be most willing to hear from you but wont approach your party for updates.

Hoping one day you people realize the value of democratic principles.
Vineet Arora.




On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.
Kindly update.

Warm Regards


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear/Sir Madam

A gentle reminder.
Kindly update.

Warm Regards
Vineet Arora.


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sir / Madam

I hope everything is going good with you people. 
I called Bipul Ji to discuss on this but came to know of a tragedy in her family that some of his relatives got a heart stroke recently and had to be hospitalized.

I feel really bad and am very sorry to disturb Bipul Ji in such an hour of grief.
I hope the concerned person gets well very soon.

1) Just checking if the task of 'Gathering all the documented suggestions that have come up to AAP from general public ' can taken over by someone else or even I can come to office with some of my collegues to gather the information. Just don't wish to bother Bipul Ji for anything now. In case it can only be done by Bipul Ji I would request him to  do it whenever appropriate taking his family commitments on priority.

Just request you to update me in any of the cases.


2) There are other suggestions that I have sent to AAP which are there in preceeding emails. Thanks for forwarding those to the concerned people I would like to know the status of the same, 
a) Have those been discarded outrightly 
b) Fully accepted
c) Partially accepted, in that case what all is accepted
d) Still pending discussion, in that case when could I expect any update.
e) Any other relevant information that could be shared.


3) Apart from the above I would like to know if there is anything that I could do to help Bipul Ji during such an hour of difficulty. Kindly do let me know I would be more than willing to help one of our brother in need, based on my capacity and abality.


Warm Regards
Vineet Arora.



On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks you I will get in touch with him.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:

Hi Vineet Ji,

Please call Mr. Bipul on 09350103687 between 10 to 6 PM to discuss the issue.

Warm Regards
Vaibhav
Team AAP

On May 31, 2013 11:09 AM, "Vineet Arora" <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to thank you for your timely response. Kindly forward me Bipul Jis contact number so that we could coordinate and find timings that would suite booth of us.


Warm Regards
Vineet.

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org> wrote:
> Dear Vineet,
>
> Please come to office & discuss all this to Mr. Bipul Dey.
>
> Warm Regards
> Vaibhav
> Team AAP
>
> Connect with us on Social Network:
> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sir/Madam
>>
>> Thanks for forwarding my suggestions/emails to concerned people/department.
>> I would like to have/know all the documented suggestions that have come up
>> to AAP from general public. If they are via post/email/inland or any other
>> means.
>>
>> If emails please forward, If inland letters etc I can come to your office
>> and collect the print-out/ photostat paying appropriate cost. Any other
>> suggestion from your side where you could provide me that info are most
>> welcome.
>>
>> I would like to collate all these documents/proofs for future reference as a
>> process of building/strengthening a democracy, probably would get these
>> published in form of a book.
>>
>> I hope you would find this quite valid in implementing complete
>> transparency. Would request you to upload all these on your website for
>> general public awareness.
>>
>> Thanks in anticipation of favorable response.
>> Vineet Arora.
>>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Contact AAP <contact@aamaadmiparty.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Arora,
>>>
>>> Thanks for writing in, we will forward your mail to our team which is
>>> still working to finalize our draft for mentioned issues, they will
>>> consider these suggestions actively.
>>>
>>> Warm Regards
>>> Vaibhav
>>> Team AAP
>>>
>>> Connect with us on Social Network:
>>> AAP National Page :- www.facebook.com/AamAadmiParty
>>> AAP website - http://aamaadmiparty.org/
>>> AAP twitter - https://twitter.com/@aamaadmiparty
>>> Party Help Line number: 09718500606 (9 A.M. to 9 P.M. - 7 days a week)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Vineet Arora <vineet.aro.bgl@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Dear Sir/Madam
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for forwarding my suggestions to concerned people.
>>> > During one of the conversation with one of the AAP volunteer there came
>>> > a
>>> > discussion point that since cost of election is quite high so JanLokpal
>>> > being selected by people might not be appropriate as that would put
>>> > additional burden on people, but since Arvind Ji himself have said a
>>> > number
>>> > of times that power or satta would be given directly to people so I
>>> > assume
>>> > applying the same analogy to Janlokpal selection that it would be
>>> > possible
>>> > for people to directly elect their representative even Janlokpal.
>>> > One of the ways of realising above goal I was found, very directly
>>> > available
>>> > on internet:
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_Complaint_Procedure
>>> >
>>> > I am pretty sure there are much more efficient ways of realising above
>>> > goal
>>> > some of them would be even economical than this one.
>>> >
>>> > Benefitts I found is the cost of election/suggestion is directly taken
>>> > by
>>> > individual and not by government(which is later on put on people in form
>>> > of
>>> > excessive taxes) and so transparency in cost. The cost is very very
>>> > negligible and beniffits are abdundant and could lead in peoples' direct
>>> > participation in law making.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2) One other reform in Judiary I found that is already implemented in
>>> > many
>>> > advanced countries inluding US and UK is use of Jury system instead of
>>> > Judge
>>> > system for trial cases. How Jury system works, how to create Jury etc
>>> > are
>>> > given in lenghts on internet for sample following links could be used:
>>> > a) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/





Wednesday 17 July 2013

`जनसेवक को मेसेज-आदेश` प्रचार तरीका

अशोक गुप्ता जी (राष्ट्रिय स्वयं सेवी) ,

जैसे हमारी फोन पर बात हुई थी, हम नागरिकों को ये पांच साल की गुलामी छोड़ कर अपने जनसेवक को ये बताना चाहिए कि हमें क्या चाहिए मेसेज द्वारा और मेसेज करके दूसरे नागरिकों को भी बताना चाहिए इन्टरनेट, पर्चों, मीटिंग आदि द्वारा कि हमने ये मांग की है, आप भी मांग करें | और ये भी मांग करना चाहिए जनसेवकों से कि उनके पब्लिक मोबाइल को वेबसाइट से जोड़ा जाये ताकि सभी को जनता के द्वारा भेजे गए मेसेज और जनता की राय का पता चले |

ऐसा करने के लिए केवल पांच मिनट ही लगेंगे | लेकिन यदि एक जिले में यदि कुछ हजार लोग भी ऐसा करते हैं और जनसेवक इसको नजरंदाज करता है, तो फिर उस जनसेवक की प्रमाण सहित पोल खुलेगी | और भावी जनसेवक पर भी ये जनता के प्रामाणिक मांग का दबाव आएगा कि जनसेवक को अपने वेबसाइट और  पब्लिक मोबाइल को आपस में जोड़ना है | इसीलिए आप भी ऐसा मेसेज करके.,भेजा गया मेसेज-आदेश को कहीं अपलोड करें और उसका लिंक भेजें | 

आपको मैं `जनसेवक को मेसेज-आदेश` प्रचार तरीका का लिंक भेज रहा हूँ ; ये इस प्रकार है -

चैप्टर 55, www.prajaadhinbharat.wordpress.com

धन्यवाद सहित - 

कश्यप | 

My Member of Parliament


I am Rakesh Suri, AC No. 55-(Sahibabad) voter# Part No. 355 Sl. No. 132  . It is Constitutional and Dharmik duty for every citizen to send necessary request/suggestion/order to his MP via SMS. I am requesting you to move a resolution in Parliament suspend the MP (who had walked out on vande mataram) for 3 months.

Also link your public phone to your website so that all the sms to you are seen by all citizens.Thanks" 


Rakesh Suri
9560354335
 

 


मैं अपने जनप्रधिनिधि से निवदेन करता हूं कि निम्‍न अघ्‍यादेश कानून पास करवायें 1


क्या नाबालिक के लिए दिल्ली गैंग रेप जैसे मामलों के लिए कानून का संशोधन होना चाहिए ?
"मैं, राकेश सूरी ,  साहिबाबाद  का वोटर हूं जिसके आप सांसद हो | संविधान के अनुसार नागरिक का कर्तव्य है कि वो अपने सांसद को  बतायें कि वह देश की समस्‍यो के निदान के कौन कौन से कानून पास करवाये 1 मैं अपना ये कर्तव्य निभाने के लिए, आपसे विनती करता हूँ आप अध्यादेश लाये कि बलात्कार और हत्या के केसों में नाबालिक की उम्र 16 वर्ष होगी | और इसको 1-1-2010 से लागू किया जाये ताकि दिल्ली बस मामले में आरोपी को फांसी दी जा सके |
और कृपया अपने मोबाईल को अपने वेबसाइट के साथ जोड़ दें ताकि आपको भेजे गए सारे मेसेज जनता को दिखें | धन्यवाद |" 


आपके जिले का मतदाता 
राकेश सूरी 
9560354335



Discussion with AAP members wnd and request to support TOG / TCP.

Dear nagaraj.

Great job. Quick response! Weldone. 
 
Thanks for your initiative. 

Because it was a phone conversation probably I have misconveyed few bits within the talk.

Let me correct them.

1. I am not exactly from london .but I live around 200 km from London in the same country UK.
2. Right to recall group membership is 17000.
3.i have not conveyed you that rtr group will support AAP. 
But I could tell you my personal opinion on this subject. 
my personal opinion is that  rtr  group may support aap if AAP fulfils these criterias. Don't take these as representing argument or unnecessary pride of rtr group members. But see how these steps will transfer the power to public and stop ALL CORRUPTION. 

 1.janlokpal bill should add *right to recall janlokpal apex member by citizens directly draft* as mentioned in 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Recall

Or 

Www.righttorecall.info/301.pdf or ( either you can copy the same or prepare even better and display ) 
2.AAP should display, PROMOTE right to recall draft. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Recall

(This second point is for any political party which fan gain rtr group support. )
 
If you do above, I assure most of rtr members will be happy to support AAP. 

4. the phone number you mentioned is wrong. I do not like to display my phone number in public for security reasons.  But any of you., like to discuss or clarify just email me.  I will provide my phone number I. Private mail. 

Again , thanks for reading and analysing our draft. 

I have publicly displayed this message by cc emailing to righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com

i request you to also cc your response and acknolwledgement to righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com
So that your response is also publicly displayed automatically.  

vande matharam 
shiva



-------- Original message --------
From: Nagaraj Kalkutagar <kalkutagar@gmail.com>
Date:
To: siddharth sharma <siddharthgpf@gmail.com>,AAP Karnataka <aap.karnataka@gmail.com>,PRITHVI REDDY <prithvi2802@gmail.com>
Cc: Shiva Thippaiah <mail2shiva123@gmail.com>,Vijay Sharma <vijureal@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd:


Dear sir,

Here I have forwarded mail from Shiva Thippaiah  from London. he discussed  about right to recall and attached similar kind of law related facts.

we discussed that , they have 1700 thousands members across India and would like express support to AAP.

And also asked me aap also support with them in implementing rich kind of LAW.

Personally, I have gone through the document and certain facts could be included in right to Recall law.

Thank you
Nagaraj.K

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Shiva Thippaiah <mail2shiva123@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:28 PM
Subject:
To: kalkutagar@gmail.com


dear  nagaraj 


the law we discussed on phone 

you tube videos of the law and explanation for you to grasp the core quickly

please see evidence of me distributing pamplets and request you to do the same. it takes only 1/2 hour per week.
 

 
vande matharam 
 
shiva


Monday 15 July 2013

as per phone conversation

dear  sowmya 

link to mail  we sent to arvind http://righttorecallmails.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Arvind%20Kejriwal

the law we discussed on phone 

you tube videos of the law and explanation for you to grasp the core quickly

please see evidence of me distributing pamplets and request you to do the same. it takes only 1/2 hour per week.
 

as you promised - i will wait for a month to get your opinion and legal teams opinion in 40 days. 

also note that this email is also publicly dispalyed in http://righttorecallmails.blogspot.com . i request you to ackowledge the reception of email as well. also cc your response and acknolwledgement to righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com

vande matharam 
shiva

Sunday 14 July 2013

Right to Recall Lokpal




From: jitendra shukla <jitendrapbh09@gmail.com>
To: annahazare1@gmail.com; msisodiya@gmail.com; parivartanindia@gmail.com; gopalrai1975@gmail.com; nba.medha@qmail.com; info@vvmvp.org; kiranbedi2005@yahoo.co.in; prashantbhush@gmail.com; kumarvishvas@gmail.com; mayankgandhi04@gmail.com; anjalidamania1@gmail.com
Cc: righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: Right to Recall Lokpal

Dear All,
Please support for right to recall without any political issue its only for nation building.
for more detail. read this link,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Thanks and Regards:-

Jitendra Kumar Shukla
Mo. No. +919650987361



Janlokpal ki kamiyan aur kuch sujhaav

कृपया ये लिंक डाउनलोड करें और दूसरों को बताएं ताकि हमारी देश को भ्रष्ट लोकपाल प्रधानमंत्रीजजअधिकारी  नुकसान नहीं पहुंचा सके और देश को बेच नहीं सके और अपने वाल के नोटब्लॉग आदि पर भी डालें ताकि ज्यादा से ज्यादा लोग देख सकें और पढ़ सकें -

राईट टू रिकाल-लोकपाल-
 
डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/406.pdf  
 
ऑनलाइन लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/406.htm

संक्षिप्त में राईट टू रिकाल के ड्राफ्ट-
 
डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/011.h.pdf 

ऑनलाइन लिंक -

अक्सर पूछे जाने वाले प्रश्न-

डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/004.h.pdf 

ऑनलाइन लिंक - 
प्रश्नोत्तरी पर विडियो हिंदी में -

http://www.youtube.com/user/TCPHindiFAQs 


विस्तार में `राईट टू रिकाल समूहके प्रस्तावित ड्राफ्ट-
============ 


काला धन भारत वापस लाने के लिए क़ानून-ड्राफ्ट -
डाउनलोड लिंक -
 
 
ऑनलाइन लिंक -

ये कानून-ड्राफ्ट नेताओं/बुद्धिजीवियों को भी लिख कर या ट्विट्टर पर बताएं और righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com पर उनके जवाब या ख़ामोशी की कापी फॉरवर्ड करें |   

Rakesh Suri
9560354335
Vaishali, Ghaziabad, UP





Fw: Janlokpal ki kamiyan aur kuch sujhaav


कृपया ये लिंक डाउनलोड करें और दूसरों को बताएं ताकि हमारी देश को भ्रष्ट लोकपाल प्रधानमंत्रीजजअधिकारी  नुकसान नहीं पहुंचा सके और देश को बेच नहीं सके और अपने वाल के नोटब्लॉग आदि पर भी डालें ताकि ज्यादा से ज्यादा लोग देख सकें और पढ़ सकें -

राईट टू रिकाल-लोकपाल-
 
डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/406.pdf  
 
ऑनलाइन लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/406.htm

संक्षिप्त में राईट टू रिकाल के ड्राफ्ट-
 
डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/011.h.pdf 

ऑनलाइन लिंक -

अक्सर पूछे जाने वाले प्रश्न-

डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/004.h.pdf 

ऑनलाइन लिंक - 
प्रश्नोत्तरी पर विडियो हिंदी में -

http://www.youtube.com/user/TCPHindiFAQs 


विस्तार में `राईट टू रिकाल समूहके प्रस्तावित ड्राफ्ट-
============ 


काला धन भारत वापस लाने के लिए क़ानून-ड्राफ्ट -
डाउनलोड लिंक -
 
 
ऑनलाइन लिंक -

ये कानून-ड्राफ्ट नेताओं/बुद्धिजीवियों को भी लिख कर या ट्विट्टर पर बताएं और righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com पर उनके जवाब या ख़ामोशी की कापी फॉरवर्ड करें |   





Janlokpal ki kamiyan aur kuch sujhaav



कृपया ये लिंक डाउनलोड करें और दूसरों को बताएं ताकि हमारी देश को भ्रष्ट लोकपाल प्रधानमंत्रीजजअधिकारी  नुकसान नहीं पहुंचा सके और देश को बेच नहीं सके और अपने वाल के नोटब्लॉग आदि पर भी डालें ताकि ज्यादा से ज्यादा लोग देख सकें और पढ़ सकें -

राईट टू रिकाल-लोकपाल-
 
डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/406.pdf  
 
ऑनलाइन लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/406.htm

संक्षिप्त में राईट टू रिकाल के ड्राफ्ट-
 
डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/011.h.pdf 

ऑनलाइन लिंक -

अक्सर पूछे जाने वाले प्रश्न-

डाउनलोड लिंक -
www.righttorecall.info/004.h.pdf 

ऑनलाइन लिंक - 
प्रश्नोत्तरी पर विडियो हिंदी में -

http://www.youtube.com/user/TCPHindiFAQs 


विस्तार में `राईट टू रिकाल समूहके प्रस्तावित ड्राफ्ट-
============ 


काला धन भारत वापस लाने के लिए क़ानून-ड्राफ्ट -
डाउनलोड लिंक -
 
 
ऑनलाइन लिंक -

ये कानून-ड्राफ्ट नेताओं/बुद्धिजीवियों को भी लिख कर या ट्विट्टर पर बताएं और righttorecall.rtr@gmail.com पर उनके जवाब या ख़ामोशी की कापी फॉरवर्ड करें |